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Dr. Bill Hamon answers your questions
about the eternal Church.
By Jennifer LeClaire
believer is being compelled to look beyond personal and
local ministry goals and catch a glimpse of Christ’s vision
for His whole Church throughout the nations and the world.
So says Dr. Bill Hamon, founder of Christian International
Ministries Network in Santa Rosa Beach, Fla. Hamon has been
equipping the saints for the work of the ministry longer
than most of us have been saints. He is a father of the
Prophetic Movement. A pioneer of the Apostolic Movement. A
forerunner of the Saints Movement.
Hamon’s desire is to see the Church fulfill its purpose, and
he knows that won’t happen “until.” Until apostles and
prophets, along with evangelists, pastors and teachers,
train and activate the saints. Until we become mature
believers to the measure of the stature which belongs to the
fullness of Christ. That’s why Hamon is building a strong
local church to raise up sons and daughters, holding
equipping seminars to activate the saints in spiritual
gifts, overseeing a Bible school to lay a solid foundation
in the Word of God, and writing books full of restorational
The Voice magazine sat down with Dr. Hamon to talk
about God’s purpose for the Church, where we are now, and
where we are headed in the years to come.
The Voice: What is the purpose of the Church and
are we fulfilling that purpose?
Dr. Bill Hamon: The Church definitely has a purpose. Most
fundamentally evangelical Christians don’t see any purpose
except to escape hell and be happy in heaven with Jesus. God
ordained the human race to bring forth a family in His
likeness and image, but Adam and Eve failed.
So Jesus came 4,000 years later to reactivate the plan of
God. He recreated a human race as we were recreated in
Christ Jesus. We are a new creation, born again, children of
God. This new creation’s purpose is to be conformed into the
image of Jesus Christ. That’s just not in holiness and
purity, but to be like Jesus in every way of His authority,
power, wisdom, grace, the way He thinks, the way He acts, to
have His government and His principles. We are supposed to
be a full personification and manifestation and
demonstration of who Christ is and what Christ is like. And
Christ is a full demonstration of who God is and what God is
The family of God, the Church, is raised up to establish
God’s purpose on the planet Earth. But He has to have a
people that are in His likeness and who think with His
convictions and His attitude, His ideas, His way of being
and doing in order to fulfill that.
Once He has these people, not only will they fill the Earth
with His glory and be His glory that fills the Earth, they
will also be instrumental in fulfilling His eternal purpose
for which He created the human race and for which He brought
forth the Church.
The Church is to demonstrate the Lordship, the sovereignty
of the Godhood; that Jesus Christ is the only true God, the
only true Savior, the only true being in the universe. We
have to demonstrate that through mighty signs and wonders
and miracles and prophetic revelation, and all the ways that
Christ did when He was here on the Earth.
The Voice: In your book “Eternal Church,” we read
about the gradual restoration of the Church. Where are we
now in the restoration process?
Dr. Bill Hamon: We are at the prophetic-apostolic. The
prophetic movement of the 80s brought in the prophet. And in
the 90s it was the apostle. Now we have all five ascension
gifts fully restored. Now we can get busy, working,
training, equipping, and activating the saints to
demonstrate the Kingdom of God. Daniel says several times
that the saints will do it. So that one-man show is coming
to a close with the restoration of the apostles and
prophets. Now it’s the whole Body of Christ arising and
demonstrating the supernatural. We will see the Body of
Christ coming forth in the Saints Movement.
We’ve crossed over the Jordan. The moment you cross over
Jordan you’re going into warfare. The Israelites had four
battles and 40 years in the wilderness. In this movement, it
is constant warfare and you don’t stop until all of Canaan
is subdued and the children of God are ruling and reigning.
As fanatical as it may sound to fundamental evangelical
Christians, the Church is destined to subdue all things and
put all things under Christ’s feet before He actually
literally returns from heaven. Father God said to Jesus,
“Sit thou at my right hand until I make all your enemies
your footstool.” The five-fold ministry must function until
we come to the perfect stature of Jesus Christ. So it’s
The Church is being prepared now for the next moves of God.
After the Saints Movement will be the Army of the Lord
Movement. The next movement after that will be the Kingdom
So we have three more movements yet to take place. So we are
right now in the Prophetic-Apostolic Movement but then
somewhere along 2012 or 2010 the preachers will start
getting on the ball and teaching and training the saints.
Then we will have the Saint's Movement that will demonstrate
to every nation the Kingship of Jesus Christ. Then we are
going to have the Army of the Lord demonstrate the power of
God and go forth as mighty warriors and shake whole nations.
Then we will have the Kingdom Establishment Movement. The
Kingdom will be established and Jesus will return and change
us in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye so we can finish
the job with our immortal bodies. That's the purpose and
identity of the movement of God for the Church. And I would
say that about 98 percent of Spirit-filled, born again
Christians do not have any concept of the overall purpose of
God for His Church.
The Voice: How can believers stay on the cutting
edge of these restorational truths in this hour?
Dr. Bill Hamon: If they don't have a panoramic view of
God's purpose for the Church and destiny of the Church, then
they are going to get stuck in a movement. Just like we have
the historic churches that camped on the outside of Egypt,
on the other side of the Red Sea, and on the other side of
Jordan being washed in the Blood. The Baptists are camped
out by the Red Sea. The Holiness folks are camped out on the
other side of the Red Sea. Then you got the Church of God,
which believes in divine healing, camped at the waters of
Marah. The Pentecostals are camped at the water from the
rock. The Charismatics are camped at Mount Sinai. The
Prophetic-Apostolic Movement has crossed over Jordan. Now we
have to keep warring.
The goal is to get every saint to possess their lot so they
can start ruling and reigning in Canaan. The end result will
be the kingdoms of this world becoming the Kingdoms of God.
Jesus is looking for some people that are going through the
purging, going through the training, dying to self.
The Voice: We have a lot a rapture teaching in the
Body of Christ. Is that helping or hurting God's purpose?
Dr. Bill Hamon: If we were going through great persecution
and were being killed and tortured, half-starved to death,
and looked like we had no hope or future, it would be
Rapture teaching is one of the most faith deadening
teachings ever preached. It has the most neutralizing affect
on a Christian's aggressive growth process. We have a lot to
do in this Earth and there is going to be a lot of stuff
that we need to do in eternity.
If you don't have a big comprehensive vision, both
restorationally and eternally, then what motivation is there
to do much except try to win a few souls to get a big reward
The Voice: So as prophetic and apostolic people,
how can we get through to the many people who don't have a
revelation of the times we are in?
Dr. Bill Hamon: We need to establish why we are here. It
would be good if the Church worked like building a car. We
could go to the Lutherans to get them into the faith, the
Baptists to get them baptized in water and sanctified and
set apart. We could get the Church of God to get them healed
and the Pentecostals to get them filled and the Charismatics
to get them free, liberated and flowing. Then we could get
the prophetic to get them activated and get the apostolic to
get them charged and challenged. We could have a great
production. But we don't have an assembly line. We have
So we got the Lutheran, the feet, doing their own thing. The
legs doing their own thing, the loins doing theirs, and the
chest and heart, the prophetic and apostolic doing their own
thing. Our Body is scattered all over the Earth and not
related, therefore it can't accomplish.
The only way the Church is going to be unified is in the
knowledge of the truth and with Christ, but it can only
happen through fellowship. See, you as an adult can drop
down on the floor with a four-year-old and crawl and play
and talk gooey gooey talk, but he can't elevate himself up
to talk and fellowship on your level. I can drop back down
and fellowship and talk with a Lutheran about justification
of faith and Jesus, but if I try to get them on my level to
speak in tongues or prophesy or move in gifts, I am taking
to them beyond their growth, experiences and revelation. So
we who are spiritual should restore those who are weak.
If we think we have much more truth or anointing, we are
teaching elitism and superiority. That's the wrong spirit
and attitude. We are all saved by the same grace, cleansed
by the same blood. Just because you've been here or advanced
further doesn't mean you look down on people that haven't
come as far as you have.
The Voice: Some people don't believe that apostles
and prophets should take on the titles of apostles and
prophets. Why is it necessary, why does it matter?
Dr. Bill Hamon: Well, several reasons. One, Jesus divided
His whole ministry into five gifts or categories or
anointings. He calls them gifts. He could have said that He
was going to give us five gifting abilities and we will have
a special anointing for special causes but we will all just
be ministers of Jesus Christ.
But the fact is that Jesus gave them names. He called them
apostle, prophet, pastor, evangelist and teacher. When Jesus
called His 12 disciples He didn't say that they were His
special 12 disciples. He called them apostles and He
commissioned them. If Jesus gave them a name and He wanted
them to have that name, then we shouldn't deny that name.
If the title is not relevant then why do pastors call
themselves pastors? Why do evangelists call themselves
evangelists? Why do teachers call themselves teachers? When
you receive a prophet in the name of a prophet, you get a
prophet's reward, not an inspired preacher or a man of God,
or a great man of God. God has respect for positions. So
it's very important.
We are all on the same level with Christ but there are
positions of honor and respect. It's like an army. We are
not a loosey goosey Jesus people floating around here. We
have commanders and lieutenants. We have colonels and
sergeants. There is a realm of authority of the Church and
that doesn't make one greater than another its just
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The Voice: Are New Testament prophets
called to pronounce judgments and curses?
Bill Hamon: When I started prophesying the only people
that they thought about as prophets were these hard,
narrow-minded mean people you see in old movies that had
that old legalistic air about them.
Some of the biggest persecution that I have got is people
saying that all I prophesy is good. They told me I ought to
rip people apart and judge them and condemn them. They
wanted me to blast them, I said, "No, no, no. The Bible says
edify, comfort and encourage." Some people just want to
bring out all the negative stuff, saying that the only true
prophets are John the Baptist prophets that rebuke the
They don't realize that a lot of the prophets, like Jeremiah
and Ezekiel, had to prophesy to Israel when they were about
ready to go into bondage. Israel wouldn't quit sinning and
God kept telling them they were going into slavery.
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